Agreed Mike.  Those things you list are left over from 1996.  That’s a long time ago.  And, similar to that is Jeter.  I don’t want to hear from Jeter (just like over the winter when supposedly he inserted his two cents because the rumor was that Pinella was going to be the manager) – Jeter hasn’t won anything since O’Neill left the team.  Oh, and as Mike points out, some of us have not liked what we have seen from Torre really since Zimmer left.  So, this just “didn’t” flare up overnight.